February 13, 2009

  • Easy Answers

    There is a lot of bad economic analysis in the newspapers these days (and heck, on Xanga and the blogosphere too).  The thing is, it can be hard to spot… so I thought I’d help pull together some rules of thumb.

    Bad Economics Rule of Thumb #1. The author is predicting about the past

    Economics is HARD man!  Well at least, it’s hard to make economics predictions ahead of time.  However, it is insanely easy to make economics predictions after the fact, and explain why (of course) you knew the answer all along.

    I will show you how easy it is by giving you some brilliant economic analysis, after the fact:

    • We were in a massive real estate bubble that recently ended.
    • The Fed did not police the bubble at all, and in fact helped cause it through low interest rates.
    • Many recent administrations greatly encouraged the bubble by pushing for subprime home ownership (Republicans tend to blame Clinton, while Democrats tend to blame W.)
    • Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should never have invested so heavily into subprime mortgages.
    • Lehman Brothers should never have been allowed to fail.

    I know this all seems obvious now, but man… does anyone remember how confused everyone was when all this stuff went down?!  It’s easy to “predict” the past… it’s hard to predict the future.

    Bad Economics Rule of Thumb #2: Everything is completely obvious, what are you a frickin’ IDIOT?!

    This stuff is super hard!  Very few people have experience with managing a credit crisis, let alone one in a global economy.  And yet, some people make out like the answer is super duper obvious, and you’re a tool for not understanding everything as clearly as they do.

    This stuff is so dang hard that many of the greatest economic minds of our generation are struggling to get their heads around what’s going on.  Now it’s possible that you are a genius and the answer is completely obvious to you!  But it’s also possible that it just seems obvious because the problem is more complex than you think.

    Bad Economics Rule of Thumb #3: Main Street = Good, Wall Street = Bad

    I see a lot of articles that say, the Bailout did nothing but enrich Wall Street and screw Main Street.  There’s definitely some truth to that.  And to be honest, I hate Wall Street as much as the next guy (probably much, much more). 

    But if our entire financial system melts down completely, Main Street is completely screwed.  I mean, banks are the lifeblood of our economy… we can’t survive without them.

    Was anyone else forced to read that Orwell book, Animal Farm?  The animals take over the farm and start changing, “Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad!!”  Reminds me of a lot of articles on the economy these days.

    We need both Two Legs and Four Legs to make it out of the Great Depression II in one piece.

    ps in my perfect world, Wall Street survives but they get evicted and have to sell all their fancy cars like in that Eddie Murphy movie, Trading Places.

    —-

    I sure hope that the government figures this all out.  Neither the Bush or the Obama administration has had too much luck so far, and I’m incredibly concerned for the US economy.  But don’t worry: I’ll let someone else figure it out, and then afterward I’ll share the answer with ya.

    How could you not have seen the answer beforehand – it was so obvious!

Comments (77)

  • You’re so brilliant, and I am a moron. You win. 

  • Lots of easy answers in retrospect, hindsight being 20 20. But to have accurately headed it all off. That would only have required being a clairvoyant.

  • all i have left are these credits…and food stamps!

  • HAHAHA you are brilliant, of course, duh, how did i not see that coming from a million miles away!

  • haha, good post.

    and we had a choice of reading either animal farm or 1984. lucky me. i chose 1984.

  • hindsight bias is a bitch. i give credit to those that run things in our government, because it’s not as easy as people make it to be. 

  • Economist = Weatherman

  • Thank you John for talking about an issue scarcely seen on Xanga. I’m thinking about these matters too and it seems that history tends to repeat itself. What are the chances that another World War might be “started” to pull us out of this slump? Conspiracy anybody? Jasmine

  • I like your whole point on the Animal Farm mentality. I’ve never thought about the economy in that way but it’s definitely happening. All of these “easy answers” that the talking heads and the pundits are handing out make me not want to watch the news (this coming from a former CNN addict).

  • Someone gives this man a job already!

  • watch FOX NEWS cable at 500 eastern time. Glenn Beck.
    He has been talking some real sense.

  • I have almost no understanding of economics…i get the big picture (we’re effed), but the details escape me (blah blah blah, we’re effed) My conception of this whole situation is a giant hole slowly draining scrooge mcduck’s money bin

  • i don’t understand rule #1.  it’s bad economics to analyze or make a judgement about previous events?  

  • Ya know, that’s a darn good point you make. Thank you for sharing it with us. Not often you see someone *actually* write something balanced! I didn’t see an ounce of bias in this piece.

    I have come near to the conclusion that the whole problem is our mindset — We’ve become credit obsessed with the whole “buy now — pay letter” concept and have thus screwed ourselves over with it.

    I don’t use credit for hardly anything, and as a result, (thus far — knock on wood!) the economy hasn’t hit our family. We’re pretty financially stable and spending quite a fair share on entertainment. So at times it’s hard for me to *see* the problem since I’m not feeling it directly. Of course, mind you, I’m afraid of the day that changes.

  • haha , good post.

  • I read an article where Japan had to nationalize the banks, wipe out shareholders, and let banks fail to really start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. The article went on to say that these might be the same tough decisions we need to make in order to get out of this mess…

  • This was a good entry.

  • John, I’ve been covering the market since last year on my other blog:
    http://chrispycrunch.blogspot.com/

  • Happy Free Hug Day!! *offers hug*

  • personally i’m just angry that things got the way they did now.  i know that no one really knows what the right thing to do is.   i’m not close to an economist (i barely passed my econ class in college), so i admit all of my knowledge comes from what i can learn from the news.  but, i follow the news extremely closely, so while there must be a lot of bad information out there, the composite picture still gives me something useful.  and lately the composite picture is really really alarming and depressing.

    that’s why i love xanga.  because i can blow off steam, my opinion remains my own, no matter how misguided it is.

  • I just purchased an iMac. 

    Yes, once again Dread Pirate saves the world/economy. 
    You can thank me later!
    Sail on… sail on!!!

  • @MiracleMax - No it’s great to analyze the past… it’s just a lot harder to predict the future, was my (attempted?) point.  Sometimes I feel like people act like everything was so obvious, when it’s only obvious in retrospect.

    @Angelic__Knight - Economic growth is slowing in the whole country, and state and local governments are reeling.  In NYC, there’s a good chance that many subway and bus lines will be cut!  Sadly, we’ll all be feeling this one soon enough ugh…

    @steadystate - Sorry don’t mean to suggest that it’s useless to follow the news or to have opinions!  My only point is that predicting what will happen next is very hard!  I sure hope that Congress, the Secretary of the Treasury and the President get it right!

  • @john - thanks for clarifying.  hindsight 20/20.  and clearly the leadership have a LOT of difficult choices to make, and all of the possible solutions involves taxpayer money, which boils my blood every time i think of it.  my hope is that they can learn from past mistakes and not repeat them, and my fear is that they think they did but actually do the same things.  and unfortunately that looks exactly like what is happening now, under a disguise.

  • In the best of times we lose the need to fight………
    In the worst of times we humble down to doing more for less….

    Cheer the fuck up…….

    mitch

  • WOW…i used to JOKE about you being retarded

    i’m sure you have a few grand laying about—YOU & a banner add for http://www.sharebuilder.com/ cwould save Sirius-XM from extinction…not that you’d care, but MAYBE an Xanga rally to save Sirius would get you on the Stern Show [@ least 15 million listeners].
    XANGA RALLIES TO SAVE SIRIUS would probably make the news if you banner the Sharebuilder link…but the MEologian’s the alpha and omega, right???
    Only reason i’m dropping you some sensible advice is because i don’t wanna HTML my ass off on blogspot;-D

  • I don’t know what the big mystery is.  Many economists have been predicting this crash for years.  Unfortunately, those people didn’t get their faces on the nightly news.  I remember seeing warnings about the real estate bubble at least five years ago, maybe more.

    This boom and bust cycle is just like all the others.  The people in charge of the money supply heat up the economy way past its boiling point and grab their pile of cash just before everything goes to Hell.  Then they use their new wealth to buy up all the stuff that other people are losing.  In this case they even went a step further and got the Government to buy it for them so they get to keep their money and everybody else’s stuff!

    This was no accident.  This was not an out of control economy.  The people in charge knew exactly what was going on because they planned it.  The boom and bust cycle is a tool used by the wealthy elites to concentrate more and more money (and power) in fewer and fewer hands.  Whether it’s real estate, dot com stocks or tulip bulbs, the principle is still the same.

  • well stated.  Still…..

    Two legs Baaaaad, Four Legs Gooood.

  • Yo…gonna bring MySpace down for effing with Obama—you ready for the influx of members

  • @TenderVoid - I am also afraid of history repeating itself.

  • @Monastro - The latest figures show that the top 40 richest people in Hong Kong have lost about 60% of their wealth in this financial crisis. One of them even have lost 90% of his wealth.

  • You have a point. I couldn’t agree more!

  • i have been looking at the overall macroeconomy like it’s the internet itself. it’s performance is directly tied to it’s  it’s architecture, the code and data and databases the infrastructure. It all must be hung together correctly or one part or another will cause problems that have a cascading effect and result in a system-wide outage.

    I think what we have now is a workaround. we’re not fixing the problem. The economy was on a high fat low nutrient diet for 40 years or so. I think it’s time to change it’s diet.

  • john, thank you for the reasonable comments about the economy.  You are absolutely right, too many people want to play monday morning quarterback and they aren’t Tom Brady.  I did quite well with macro economics, yet I couldn’t tell you what’s going to happen next.  In retrospect, since government involvement in the market is part of the problem, it may have been good to help Lehman brothers.

    One thing I do know: economies expand and contract.  Recessions are as old as trade.  It is just something that happens in a system so big.  Even nature has cycles.  We complain about the weather but sometimes you just have to wait the thunderstorms out.  The worse thing a person can do is panic and think the end of the world is coming if we don’t do something fast. 

    Like Roosevelt said, “We have nothing to fear but fear it’s self”  Fear does stifle economic growth.  People stop buying when they are fearful.  If people stop buying then other people lose their jobs and they stop buying causing more people to lose jobs.  Soon you go from recession to full blow depression.  The last thing America needs in a time of economic crisis is a leader who uses fear to get his/her way.

  • @Monastro - Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  Of course some economists predicted that the housing bubble would burst.  You don’t lose anything by predicting the worse.  I can predict that somebody will use a nuclear weapon in the next hundred years and there is a reasonable chance that I will be right.  Does that make me a brilliant predictor of global events?  No.  It is abudently easy to be paranoid and a pessimist.

  • This is why you should all vote for me in the next election. Sure, it might be a police state, but it’d be better.

  • I rather like #2, and I think I’ll remember that to respond with next time somebody starts talking like they know the exact correct way to do something.

  • Happy birthday John!

  • Happy Birthday John!!

  • My answer to this probably won’t be popular because I tend to blame some Americans for the majority of this. Mainly people who bought houses when they couldn’t afford them. Of course the government encouraged this, which is where I put the rest of the blame. Happy birthday! :)

  • happy birthday john!

  • It is complex. What if we all began to live within our means, what would happen? Of course no one can make you or I do that.  Happy Birthday!

  • HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN!!!!!

  • Hey, heard it was your birthday. Happy birthday! 

  • I was told it is your birthday. I hope it is a delightful day!

  • hey happy birthday! (one day late) lol. i sent out a message to all of my friends saying happy birthday john. a lot of them sent it

  • John,

    I know I’m way late on this one, but I wanted to get your opinion on something. You said, Main Street = Good, Wall Street = Bad. Now, I won’t presume to know much about Xanga’s operations, but common sense tells me that you know a thing or two about corporate management and that Xanga generates more revenue than people realize.

    That having been said, what plans are in place to ensure that Xanga will be available in the coming months as the economy continues to implode?

  • happy birthday :)  

  • happy birthday!

  • Happy Birthday from your terrorist brother.

  • Happy belated birthday!

  • Hey happy birthday man!

  • happy Belated Birthday!!!!
    :0)
    Tina

  • Well..a big HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU !!! I just found out from CndFrnd  I hope it’s a great one John…best wishes..take care..enjoy….birthday hugs, Lee 

  • I have a question, and I didn’t know who to contact since I cannot find any contact information, and I remember that your xanga was very informative in the past.
    I have been saving up to get xanga lifetime for a while, and now that I have 100,000 credits, it’s no longer available, what’s the big idea!

  • Good post.  Just tell me when you are running for office and I will vote for you.  

  • Economists are kind of like weathermen in that sense– they give you a 50% chance of rain, so if it DOES rain, they’re right, and if it DOESN’T rain they’re right… and still get paid for it! Hindsight truly is 20/20.

    Lucky for me, this is what I’m studying to be in college.

  • I’m with you on this…  it easy poke holes…  its another to think up a new fabric

  • Lol. This was funny and very intelligent at the same time =D

  • I think this is the only article I’ve read on Xanga about the economy I really can get behind. Most of them tend to blame one side (Obama or Clinton).

  • John you timestamping bastard you.

    I stay away from giving financial advice. you know how bad I am at marketing.

  • oh wait I came here on a rec. My bad.

  • Haha, very nice.

  • so anti-stalker programs no longer work eh? or am i just too tech-challenged to figure this out in the new system?

  • hahaha….

    wait, why am i laughing…oh yeah, perhaps because i’m from a different continent…

  • It is too easy to say that everyone should save money so that they have a large pool of money to spend later. The go go economics of easy credit has made a lot of people constantly broke. When emergencies happen those poor people have to declare bankrupcy (though the govt made it harder to declare bankrupcy).

    My boss is enjoying using the housing money loans for his new home, this will be a housing break for some areas like Los Angeles that don’t usually lower prices on homes.

  • that is why I try to stay out of politics….

    and hey, thanks for the recommend on my post! :D

  • @maniacsicko - :sniff: don’t make fun of us!! haha

  • @Fool0nThePlanet - hey i didn’t…  i just laugh when other people did it…  haha…   just because i laugh a lot though (nothing sinister or bad intention or something)

  • @maniacsicko - hehe I know, I was joking~ :P

  • Alright John from the Xanga team…I’m sorry I’m leaving a comment totally and completely unrelated to your post…but I can’t seem to find a link to send help requests to the xanga team.  Anyway, my “Friends (5 invites)” link on my homepage isn’t working…What do I do?!

  • Read the other day that some former Xanga dude formed Twitter…how come YOU haven’t written about THAT

  • #1, some people (RON PAUL comes to mind, but there were others) warned of the items you listed for months and in some cases YEARS before they happened – only to be laughed at by everyone around them.  Who’s laughing now?

    #2, I find the answer completely obvious when predictions are made, reasons for said predictions are given, and then *things happen exactly as it was predicted.*  I mean, sure, I guess it could all just be one heck of a coincidence.  But if someone was right about what happened and why, they just might be right about how to fix it now, ya know?

    #3, I’ll give you partial credit on this one.  No, wall street isn’t inherently evil and main street isn’t inherently good.  But, neither is the reverse true.  Both are essential parts of our economic system – and stealing from one to prop up the other is only going to reverse the order of decline. At least, that’s what those experts who have made completely obvious predictions that came true exactly as they said are saying now.

  • Title of a song by Operation Ivy.

  • A child hood friend of mine, who’s in the banking industry told me 6 month prior to the bubble bursting in the housing market – NOT to go that route for investing – it would be a bust.

    I was a bit shocked, but trusted him. (he’s always been good with money tips)

    Thank God I did.

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